Talk about anything

Nerdzmasterz

It's going now, mostly. That was weird. Tab seems to be the only real issue atm.

CLAYOoki

Oh wow this thread is so active.

Do yall know any libraries that help with networking stuff?
Like adding chat to a game or a lobby system, dealing with latency, or anything like that?

Is it feasible to work on a multiplayer game in godot, or is it just better suited for single player

Nerdzmasterz

CLAYOoki

I would check this out first, assuming you understand basic coding and such. 😃

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/networking/high_level_multiplayer.html

TwistedTwigleg

CLAYOoki Do yall know any libraries that help with networking stuff?
Like adding chat to a game or a lobby system, dealing with latency, or anything like that?

If you are targeting only HTML5 and are okay with peer-to-peer, then I have found using PeerJS as an embedded JavaScript library and then using the Godot JavaScript communication layer works decently. You do have to do all of the data conversion/translation from PeerJS to Godot and back though, so it is not really beginner network programming friendly. It also has some latency, but for non instant real-time games, it should work okay.
It does that a lot of work though - I spent 3 or 4 weekends to get the initial stuff setup…

However, if you are making a non-HTML5 game and/or want to use the more powerful Godot networking stuff, then the built-in high level networking code is the place to go 🙂
Edit: the reason I didn’t go with the high-level networking is just I didn’t want to host my own server for my game.

CLAYOoki

Nerdzmasterz

Ah I was hoping for some more plug-and-play resources.
It seems the networking will be a bit of its own project.

Edit: Does anyone know any open-sourced projects that handle all the annoying cases like cheating, multiple servers, and etc?

Nerdzmasterz

And, yeah, this is probably THE most active thread here, from what I can see.

cybereality

Nerdzmasterz And, yeah, this is probably THE most active thread here, from what I can see.

2,500 posts!!! And the OP was a hit and run.

Bimbam

cybereality 2,500 posts!!!

Some of us just don't like Discord ^^

Nerdzmasterz

CLAYOoki I recall a similar conversation on this. The big answer I got was no. I can see from experience that pirates and hackers are dealt with in various ways.

You could try to keep all of the information on a server, or use a password, but neither of those methods are fool-proof. The server would probably be the best option, if one can afford it.

CLAYOoki

Nerdzmasterz
I found this. It seems pretty promising.

https://heroiclabs.com/blog/tutorials/godot-fishgame/

Erich_L

In my class Box I have this:

func setPopMessage(message : String = "Pop!"):
	_popMessage = message

but where I initialize my Box I'm not getting any auto-complete suggestions for the input:

	var box : Box = createBox(0,0,0)
	box.setPopMessage(NO SUGGESTIONS??? what am I doin wrong?)

Am I missing something?

cybereality

There is nothing to suggest. message is a String, it can be anything you want to type in. The Pop! is just a default parameter that is assigned if the method call is empty.

Erich_L

cybereality Usually when the editor knows the class type it gives you hints for what the func input parameters are.

On another note, does anyone know the name of the material parameter that allows the material to be drawn on top of everything else? I have been looking for quite some time, it's eluding me.

Tomcat

Does it make sense to use the QOI format?

cybereality

I've never heard of that, and I doubt it is useful for anything (considering I've never heard of it). JPG and PNG are already more than fine. In any case, GPUs use their own texture compression, so the file format you use (like JPG) is only for getting it into the editor. Once your game is running on your computer or on a phone, the GPU uses it's own optimized format so it doesn't actually matter.

Tomcat

cybereality I've never heard of that, and I doubt it is useful for anything (considering I've never heard of it). JPG and PNG are already more than fine.

I had not heard about this format, too, so I was surprised. It's kind of claimed to be a "faster PNG".

cybereality I couldn't get the command-line tools working, but I used this website. https://jpegxl.io/

Your browser does not support JPEG XL.😞

Megalomaniak

cybereality I've never heard of that, and I doubt it is useful for anything (considering I've never heard of it).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QOI_(image_format)

I think it's mostly up to just how new it is. Seems like something with potential though, and open standards, IMO are always preferable.

Pixophir

Neither knew it. https://qoiformat.org/ Why do I think of fish ? :-)

Use a format that suits you most. I am a fan of PNG for simple images and height map stuff, also because one can make an image in a few lines of code with libpng.

But of course it depends on what you need it for. One stumbles over all kind of formats for all kinds of purposes.

cybereality

JPEG XL is interesting. That will (most likely) be the next industry standard image format (to replace JPEG, PNG, and GIF), so it would make more sense to support that, rather than random formats that will never work with anything. JPEG XL supports high quality lossy and lossless images (with much better quality and file size), transparency, animation, and a whole ton more. Once it is standard, there will likely not need to be any use for JPG/PNG/GIF for a long while.

https://chromeunboxed.com/jxl-jpeg-xl-new-image-file-type-chrome/

Pixophir

Do you know if there is a compressed format on the CPU side where one can still address single pixels ?

Edit: wow, JXL claims 30% better lossless compression than PNG, impressive. Also for 16bit gray scale ? Will risk an eye. There's an implementation here https://github.com/libjxl/libjxl, but it isn't in the Debian repositories yet.

Editedit: It's also rather fat, an allrounder, compared to PNG. But then again, if you want to store a lot of data and have a chance for 30% less demand on space for storage and traffic ...

cybereality

I haven't been able to build the source yet. It's still not 100% final, so it's in constant flux. However the release page on Github has an older .deb file that does work. It at least lets you view the images, I'm trying to convert some stuff now. It's from last year, but it's good enough to test the quality and file size. Support is still not ready (as I said, it's barely final) but there is a GIMP plugin and Chrome just added support.

Kojack

Going back 4 months to when we talked about JPEG XL...

cybereality Support is still not ready (as I said, it's barely final) but there is a GIMP plugin and Chrome just added support

and Chrome has already deprecated JPEG XL and will remove its code. 🙁
Their reasons:

Experimental flags and code should not remain indefinitely
There is not enough interest from the entire ecosystem to continue experimenting with JPEG XL
The new image format does not bring sufficient incremental benefits over existing formats to warrant enabling it by default
By removing the flag and the code in M110, it reduces the maintenance burden and allows us to focus on improving existing formats in Chrome

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Chrome-Dropping-JPEG-XL-Reasons

cybereality

Okay. I couldn't get the command-line tools working, but I used this website. https://jpegxl.io/

cybereality

Tomcat Your browser does not support JPEG XL.😞

Yes, like I said, it's very early. I don't expect support to be out until later this year in a stable release. You can kind of get it working with beta software, like I did, but it's not totally there. But in a few months I expect it will start rolling out. It's honestly going to be pretty big. We get better quality at much lower file size (if you look at the test I did, it's like 25% of the size at the same visual quality). Plus high quality high frame rate animation, that will be much better than GIF. And transparency of compressed images, which is not possible right now (especially important on the web). I'd say within 1 year, it will be the industry standard.

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