Jdellis6656 So, my current specs are an intel i5-10400F with 16GB of ram, 1TB NVME, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 super, i just ordered a NZXT 750w 80+ gold psu. i only have a 400w psu right now.

that sounds like a pretty good PC, at least to me. the GPU is maybe the weak part, and you could always do with some more RAM.

may I ask what is the reason for the upgrade? have you tried developing a game and hit a wall? or have you not done so yet?

unless this is a laptop, you could try upgrading the RAM, replacing the stick with a bigger one. and then getting a better graphics card and power supply.
you would have to open the case, look at the motherboard number, and look it up on the internet to see what memory is supported. or try to find the motherboard manual if it came with the PC.

      IMHO, for the price you want to drop vs what you can get used... for WAY less.... makes a used pc a good investment... I would search around for someone trying to part with one (Facebook market place etc). I would avoid used laptops as they are more "single use" internally and just poop the bed performance wise compared to their boxy brethren (as i"m typing this on my 12 year old laptop ;P).
      People buy/build computers for TOP DOLLAR, and within a year or so realize they don't need it/cant use it.... and go and buy a console 99% of the time.
      As long as you have a minimal understanding of computers, you can get something that can be upgraded/built up for pennies on the dollar. even if they were "crypto mining" with it and cooked something.... for "half" off the sticker price you could replace "x" component and still be under the original price.
      As a side bonus... 9/10 times the person "throws" in their super fancy mouse, keyboard, monitor, and of course rgb lightsystem (bc thats essential).
      Unless you just want the new box smell or NEED something spec specific..... source someone else's impulse buy.
      I understand you live in the sticks.... but so do other people.... and if anything you'll get a good deal based off supply/demand.

      kuligs2 like i said earlier, look it up at the motherboard manufuckers website, using the motherboard model, then go to support section or compatibility section, and there will be memory compatibility..

      This is, if not the most damaging advice, then certainly one of the most damaging. Here's the reason.

      1. The QVL-list is created when the board is released and is never updated again. If a company releases a new module that is fully compatible and has better features, it will not be included in this list.
      2. It is hilarious to see memory from companies from “Uncle Liao's basement”, while serious companies are often poorly represented in such lists. That is, chips from Hynix and Samsung, but modules directly from them are not in the list! Really?

      the pc part pickler and other websites just check if its DDR4 or DDR5 etc,

      Yep, that's quite enough. When companies are held to a standard.

      kuligs2 I can say, once you go OLED, you dont want to go back.

      Well, yeah, that's true, but

      It feels like almost CRT but more vivid and clear.

      apparently you haven't dealt with top-of-the-line CRTs.

      Jdellis6656 If you are going to build a workstation on server components, then you will have to study memory banks and rows - it is necessary for accessibility of large amounts of memory... but it is very different from building a household computer.

              Jdellis6656 First the basis:

              The comp to make the game should be a level above the target platform (the comp that will be played on).

              In fact, in general, @Jesusemora has already said everything I wanted to say.

              1. First you need to decide what kind of games you are going to make and what their requirements will be.
              2. Your comp is quite suitable for learning and creating simple prototypes.
                If you really want, you can add memory. It will not be bad. And, most importantly … buy a disk for… 2-4 Tb. For the archive: sources, assets, training projects and prototypes. The volume is consumed very quickly.

              Jdellis6656 here is a rough build i put together, if anyone is willing to look and critique.

              A good set for games. But not for making them. But if you want to take it, then:

              1. replace the WD 770 with an 850.
              2. add memory.

              Big case — good cooling. 👍️ 🌬️

              Ah yeah, as is the tradition here, my configuration:

              And, it makes deep sense to buy a good monitor instead of a computer.

              My main monitor: AOC 27’’ QHD OLED gaming monitor AGON PRO AG276QZD

              But you can get a big OLED TV instead of a monitor. I have an LG OLED42C2 (my 2nd monitor).

                    Jesusemora I'm actually going to give this computer to my wife. after I picked it up she tried playing on it and liked it. It plays everything she's into with ease. I'm wanting to build my own that's a little more optimized for productivity and getting as much out of Godot as I can afford to. id like something that has more futureproofing, I'm super new so I have no clue what I'm doing when it come to picking a build.

                      Tomcat Thank you! That's extremely helpful! Could i afford to build something that is a step or two up from my current? with a $1,200.00 USD budget? Honestly i was mostly picking stuff on the fly for that build. My aim is to make 3D games my current comp could handle.

                        What should I prioritize most? I know with the CPU I need the highest core and thread count I can reasonably get, GPU doesn't seem to be as high of a priority as lots of ram and storage. or do I have that wrong? Should I go with an older Socket? or are the newer ones better?

                        I swear YouTube build guides leave me with more questions then they answer.

                          Sorry everybody, I'm playing years of catch up. My comp right now is my first, that I got earlier this year. I'm also just barely beginning my journey into game development. I've always wanted to, just didn't know how to get started. You've all been amazing! I really appreciate all the input!

                            Tomcat This is, if not the most damaging advice, then certainly one of the most damaging. Here's the reason.

                            The QVL-list is created when the board is released and is never updated again. If a company releases a new module that is fully compatible and has better features, it will not be included in this list.
                            It is hilarious to see memory from companies from “Uncle Liao's basement”, while serious companies are often poorly represented in such lists. That is, chips from Hynix and Samsung, but modules directly from them are not in the list! Really?

                            this is not true.
                            this year i went and bought some ram, DDR was on point, manufacker was too, and yet the system didnt boot.
                            Go on and went to see the list of supported, dug out the ram serial number and low and behold it wasnt supported. wasted my life few more weeks on shipping.

                            Tomcat apparently you haven't dealt with top-of-the-line CRTs.

                            yes i have not, no room, no money.

                                  kuligs2 this is not true.

                                  What's "not true"? Is the QVL-list updated? Can you give me an example? It should be updated, but I haven't seen an actual implementation of it yet.

                                  I'm curious, what was the motherboard and memory model?

                                      Jdellis6656 What should I prioritize most?

                                      Buying a computer… especially for work… well, it's a more philosophical and existential question…

                                      I have Intel and NVidia, as you can see.

                                      In general, yeah, it's better to do it and see what happens.

                                      Everyone has his own experience. Here's an example. I had a situation similar to that of @kuligs2. I bought and assembled a computer and it wouldn't start. Then I went to the store where I bought the motherboard. I was shown there that it works with other memory. But Asus and GeIL cannot be incompatible! (At that time for sure, but how it is now — I don't know.) On the way back I went to the store where I took the memory and said that it didn't work. They looked at me with great surprise and without saying a word immediately changed the set. This memory worked for several years until it was replaced with a larger capacity. So, even the most reliable manufacturer can be defective. It's something to keep in mind. So, from a similar situation we found different ways out and made different conclusions.

                                      Right now, you're taking a computer for studying. When you start working, it will most likely be very outdated.

                                      Keep this in mind. I guess even @kuligs2 won't argue with this. The upgrade capabilities are severely limited by the motherboard.

                                      Here is an example of an open 3D world in Godot. Compiled version for Windows.

                                      You can look at this thread Godot 4 Demo Scenes.

                                      But remember that the most tricked out comp will not make the game for you.

                                      How are you with programming and, most importantly, with math?

                                          I'm a complete beginner to programing. I've only followed along with a YouTube tutorial so far to start learning the basics.
                                          math doesn't seem to be an issue.

                                          kuligs2 That's been my mindset as well. I've only played around with some 2D so far, but I've had a blast!

                                            Tomcat Id love to have a workstation like yours, but I don't think I should worry about that until I know what I'm doing more.

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                                              Are these inland by microcenter bundles on amazon decent deals? I'm hoping to get settled on a build in time for the holiday deals. first one i was thinking of checking out was the prime day deals.

                                              Tomcat I'm curious, what was the motherboard and memory model?

                                              its a protectli device, i guess custom motherboard.. vp4650. They sell it with ram and without ram, i looked up the "manufacturer" by word, so they sold some with kingston so i bougt kingston, but the one i bought (talking about ram) did not boot. compared the ram serial numbers with the list they had tucked deep in their website and yeah, it was not on the list.. bought other ram from the list and it worked.

                                              Its not often but sometimes it happens. Better be safe and get the ones that are certified to work with your motherboard and save few weeks on shipping and a headache later.

                                              Also, my latest pc build came in few days ago, booted it dry no OS, plugged in the USB flash with some linux on it, and BAM... it wont boot from it.. Secure boot is enabled, and grayed out in the BIOS. Cant disable..

                                              Reformated with different distro, and different methods and it booted.. installed OS, and now i can turn the secure boot off in the bios..

                                              the motherboard was MSI.

                                              For the OP, if youre a noob, and have money just get pre built comp, if it dont work you can return it and tell them to make it work.

                                              If youre smart then build it yourself.
                                              Or if you already have pc, 2060 isnt that bad. i forgot what cpu u had. Either way you could build a pc from used parts. Just dont buy used hard drives, you might get swatted by fbi.

                                                  kuligs2 I'm confident I can build one. I also have friends I can get to supervise me so I don't screw it up. My current comp has a 10th gen i5 i believe. i really like this set up, ive just heard that intel is having issues with the newer 13th and 14th gen cpus? could i find a decent 12th gen that would be a good starting point?

                                                      I didn't read the entire thread, but noticed some posts about compatibility. One option is to look at prebuild computers from a dealer that knows his job and then buy those parts and build it yourself for less money. My last pc would have been 10% cheaper, but I was too lazy.