Talk about anything

Nerdzmasterz

I prefer USBs, IMO. They don't cost much, and they're more secure than they'd be online.

duane

Microsoft prohibits open-source rip-offs. Generally, I approve.

cybereality

Yeah, I've seen those fake apps on the store. Kind of a jerk move to do that.

KanataEXE

What tutorials do you want to see?

Currently thinking next tutorials I want to make. I've made one for state machines.

I was about to make a 2D platformer one, but it's way too common.

Pixophir

Godot tutorials ?

One up-to-date with the 4.0 gdscript changes would be cool for a newcomer, I think. The examples in the latest branch of the docu are partly out of sync.

But I wanted to rant:
Vulkan is a mess 😖

Nerdzmasterz

Is 4.0 free of bugs yet? I would avoid it until it is.

cybereality

Nerdzmasterz Is 4.0 free of bugs yet? I would avoid it until it is.

No, it's still alpha software but it works okay.

Tomcat

Nerdzmasterz Is 4.0 free of bugs yet?

Well, if you don't consider it a mistake

Tomcat Tried to experiment. Importing into Godot 3.4.4 and 4.0 the same Blender file with animation:

But it's very sad because in 4 the animation editor is improved.

I would avoid it until it is.

Very reasonable in my opinion.

duane

I can't really test 4.x until they fix this issue. I have a small screen and old eyes, so I've probably got the largest font settings of anyone using godot. However, since we won't get web support immediately, I'm not motivated to use 4.0 anyway. 🙂

Tomcat

duane I can't really test 4.x until they fix this issue.

To be honest, "1920x1080 screen" is extremely small. Today's serious programs have a lot of options that just won't fit on a small screen even if you try to categorize them. We get too many categories. IMHO

packrat Is it normal that I get logged out after roughly a hour since the website went back up?

I logged in once a few days ago and have not yet logged out… Maybe some settings in your browser?

Nerdzmasterz

4.0 does look great, it just needs some more TLC. It will get there. 🙂

packrat

Is it normal that I get logged out after roughly a hour since the website went back up?

cybereality

packrat Is it normal that I get logged out after roughly a hour since the website went back up?

No. I only ever logged in once, when we first switched over. Do you have plugins that erase your cookies or something? You might have to whitelist the domain.

Megalomaniak

packrat Is it normal that I get logged out after roughly a hour since the website went back up?

Make sure to toggle the check-mark for "remember me" or whatever it was again when logging in.

Bimbam

Tomcat To be honest, "1920x1080 screen" is extremely small.

o.O
Last time I checked, the overwhelming majority of devices are still 1080 or less, even gamers:

source: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

cybereality

Seems like a critical bug to be open so long, and still not fixed on 4.0, but at least they are working on it.

Tomcat

Bimbam o.O
Last time I checked, the overwhelming majority of devices are still 1080 or less, even gamers:

I am of the opinion that there is a difference in requirements between users/players and developers/creators. For example, it is recommended to develop the game on a computer level higher than the recommended for maximum quality of this game. Well, that's how I was taught…

Just open the list of video cards there and try to find the Quadro... Are they being played on? But who's going to argue that Quadro is better for c 3D work?

Bimbam

Tomcat But who's going to argue that Quadro is better for c 3D work?

Because Autodesk products throw a warning if you don't? or because of an actual CBA of price vs. performance.

If the latter, I'm betting Quadro loses.

Last time I checked, Quadro cards were just nerfed GTX cards with expensive firmware that business latch onto for the 'enhanced reliability', support and VMs, not the performance which was always sub par (to the point where you could swap bioses on them for as much as a 50% speedup).

Megalomaniak

Tomcat I am of the opinion that there is a difference in requirements between users/players and developers/creators. For example, it is recommended to develop the game on a computer level higher than the recommended for maximum quality of this game. Well, that's how I was taught…

I would argue for the opposite, you define the minimum spec for the widest audience you want to possibly capture and develop against that minimum spec. You should still test higher end systems including monitors as well, especially now that we have ultra wides and super ultra wides and whatnot.

Bimbam

I was never taught, but as we're talking about a desktop apps UI rather than the game itself, I defer to this as what I would consider a good practice:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/layout/screen-sizes-and-breakpoints-for-responsive-design

While I would certainly recommend any developer (or anyone really) upgrade to 4k, the practical reality is most devices aren't, and you want your app to be accessible to the biggest market.

;tldr the app should cater to its users, the user shouldn't have to cater to the app (unless explicitly required)

Anyway Duane's bug looks like it may be resolution agnostic as the interface is extending beyond its visible window (which is bad lol)

Tomcat

Bimbam I was never taught, but as we're talking about a desktop apps UI rather than the game itself, I defer to this as what I would consider a good practice:

I'll just leave it here

Recommended

• 2560×1440 display

cybereality

1080p is still very popular, even new higher end laptops often come at 1080p resolution. And cheaper laptops can sometimes be lower than 1080p. It is common that developers own larger screens, or multiple screens, but this is not a guarantee, particularly with a free engine like Godot that is going to attract people on low spec devices. So I am unsure how this bug could go on for so long, though I admit I have used Godot on my 1080p laptop and I didn't notice any problems, so maybe it is an odd edge case.

cybereality

Though I don't especially like Microsoft as a company, they do have some of the best documentation.

cybereality

Bimbam I'm betting Quadro loses.

Quadro was always bogus and a cash grab to exploit corporate clients. Back in the day, there was a soft-mod you could do that would turn like a $200 gamer card into a $4000 Quadro, and performance was the same. It's the same reason many cloud services have a free tier for individuals but charge you like $500/month if you work at a corporation. The product is the same, but they charge what they think people will pay. Or when the price says "Please Inquire" and they look up the market cap of your company and divide by 10 to tell you the cost. It's all just a game.

Tomcat

Bimbam Quadro cards were just nerfed GTX cards with expensive firmware

Is it possible to reverse RTX into Quadro?

Bimbam So my point stands.

The point of view that it's better to work behind a small monitor? Sorry I don't share it. I guess the text ejection bug (which is a bug) will be fixed but the suffering won't stop there.

cybereality Back in the day, there was a soft-mod you could do that would turn like a $200 gamer card into a $4000 Quadro, and performance was the same.

I would like to know more about it

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