Gowydot

Gowydot Pencil + paper for me.

Gowydot I'd guess it would be extra steps to transfer your drawings to Godot on PC.

It would and very extra step to transfer from paper to godot..

Gowydot You have to have "tablet gloves" (or whatever they call it) otherwise your palm will trigger whatever on screen when drawing.

Yes, they are cheap, no biggie, it also make your hand slide better on the surface of screen.

Gowydot I find it a bit cumbersome to use pen to select icons since you have to move the whole hand to them (as with mouse you'd just bend your wrist).

That is why you get tablet with touch support, or, software that lets you put custom controls on screen closer to your "wrist/hand" or tablet with bindable buttons.

Gowydot Research response time and latency when buying. You don't want lag while drawing, it's so annoying.

If you buy now, there are no laggy tablets that i have researched so far.. tech has evolved and its good. Ofc, higher Hz screen is better, feels more fluid. 60hz that i have is decent for my hobby practice.

Gowydot If I had the money I would get the largest screen possible.

Yes and no. Better to find screen that youre comfortable using, and it has the best resolution/refreshrate possible, along with color gamut.

Its not fun drawing on 65inch screen if you ask me. Or A0 paper size..

                  • Tomcat

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                  A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away… I bought myself an Asus Eee Slate EP121 tablet and since then I've only taken tablets with a pen that can distinguish the force of pressure. I even have an e-book (with e-paper) with such a stylus. It is an extremely important tool. Paper and pencil are relics of the paleontolith.

                  kuligs2 Its not fun drawing on 65inch screen if you ask me. Or A0 paper size..

                  Well, you're wrong. I started my working career as a draftsman. Kuhlmann — have you heard of that device? It's a lot of fun to draw on A0.

                  MikeCL These days I think Wacom has some strong and cheaper competitors.

                  I don't know of any Wacom competitors that recognize the tilt of the pen. But Wacom is in no hurry to equip its tablets with OLED, only recently the very small Wacom Movink 13.3” tablet. (I'd buy it, but it's not on sale here.) And I didn't see a model larger than 27” among the new models. There used to be a 32” tablet-monitor.

                      kuligs2

                      • Yea I meant if it's just to use tablet for planning/taking notes vs. creating Godot assets with it.
                      • Larger screen allows you to see more of surrounding area when zooming in to work on small details, so you don't have to zoom out often to see how your changes affect overall picture. (Just from what I tried with my own small tablet vs. bigger tablet at the shop)
                      • Your other points are well-noted. I haven't done much digital paints nowadays. I wish I had time to get back to it but 3D is my chosen path right now 🍩

                          Gowydot Yea I meant if it's just to use tablet for planning/taking notes vs. creating Godot assets with it.

                          Yeah, you can. That's exactly how I use my e-book. But that's where the small format comes in handy — a large tablet is not very convenient for taking notes. They are slightly different purposes, although the functionality may overlap.

                            Gowydot Your other points are well-noted. I haven't done much digital paints nowadays. I wish I had time to get back to it but 3D is my chosen path right now

                            hope youll post your creations here, im always interested what people create, to learn from 😃

                            Also, how big of a tablet you talking about - at the shop and small at home, you had experienced with. For reference.

                                i think i had a wacom at some point..i forgot why i hated it, but i did enough to buy a second equally cheap one.
                                now i have a refurbished, heavily used XPpen Deco Mini7. i have not figured out how to remap the buttons on it, but i did find buttons for CTRL+Z and CTRL+S: my two most important ones. depending on the stage of development, it will sit in a box for months and months on end, and then asset development or intense note-taking/planning takes place and i spend a good 5-8 hours with it daily.

                                trizZzle
                                REVBENT
                                speaking from experience, if you have a tablet without a display, it does take some time to mentally translate the size of the tablet to that of your display. it takes a little time to establish the difference in your reflexes.

                                    REVBENT and i find that drafting anything with paper/rulers is far more accurate in the long than the software counterparts

                                    I've had to deal with both options and I dare to disagree.

                                        Tomcat Really, i am surprised to hear that. I am saying it as the person who is drawing up the blueprints (homes/buildings), not as a jobsite foreman reading/constructing.

                                        The architect surely can make mistakes with hand drawn prints... however i have always found "building" the home mentally with paper and pen to allow me to find those "little" issues with how to tie points together... vs simply asking software to lay out a floor system... point loads... walls/beams.... the software would do what was "correct" on paper... but not logical for long run error proofing.

                                        Those little inconsistencies is what makes a good foreman though... being able to "read" the prints and know how to dynamically adjust each faze of the process.

                                        I am SURE the software that is used makes all the difference too! I must admit it has been many moons (8 years or so) since i drew up anything that required a "stamp", and the software we had may not of been the best. My brother and i have drawn all our plans by hand our entire careers, though some times prints need to be recreated digitally (where hand drawn prints were not feasible (wanting to see different layouts/siding/windows at the click of a button)).

                                            REVBENT I am saying it as the person who is drawing up the blueprints (homes/buildings), not as a jobsite foreman reading/constructing.

                                            Perhaps the misunderstanding is due to “translation difficulties”. I didn't work as an architect. My job is mechanisms. And I don't understand what calculations have to do with it — I'm talking purely about drawing (creating) a drawing. And it is absolutely certain that it is easier "to tie points together” on a computer.

                                            I dabbled in architecture only for myself. By the way, as an architect, what is your opinion of Sweet Home 3D?

                                                @Tomcat
                                                it has been many years since i have done any of this.

                                                my life took a huge turn around 6 years ago when my fiance became permenantly disabled.

                                                that forced me need a new job i could take care of her while doing*

                                                i have no experience with sweet home 3d... but it looks very cool! This is similar to other programs i have seen people use but i believe i read this was a free program... which is even cooler

                                                Tomcat I can see where drawing mechanisms would be far superior on software.

                                                especially for the multi-dimensional abilities that you would have to view/draw.

                                                as well as creating "pieces" and putting them together.

                                                plus zooming in and out... i can see that being the biggest advantage over pencil.

                                                with a blue print you are drawing at scales respective to the final product, where precision is only needed on THAT scale.

                                                I'd suspect that with mechanisms the smallest calculation being "rounded" improperly would lead to catastrophic outcomes.

                                                    REVBENT I'd suspect that with mechanisms the smallest calculation being "rounded" improperly would lead to catastrophic outcomes.

                                                    This is something that really annoyed me when I switched from a drafting program to a drawing program — the inability to precisely specify size. Professional drawing programs (AutoCAD) apparently have some mechanism to “fix” rounding, since such errors are not allowed.

                                                      @Tomcat
                                                      i wonder how hard it would be to lay a drawing program "on top" of a cad program... kinda the way we use mesh rigging to assign point/scale values.

                                                      that "fix" probably has something to do with this i assume.

                                                        REVBENT Интересно, насколько сложно было бы разместить программу рисования «поверх» программы CAD… примерно так же, как мы используем оснастку сетки для присвоения значений точки/масштаба.

                                                        I suppose it's not very difficult. Well, I used to draw in AutoCAD (on my own time at work). But the cost of such a program would include the cost of a basic CAD program. So, it is not rational to do it.

                                                        это «исправление», вероятно, как-то связано с этим, я полагаю.

                                                        Perhaps something like this.

                                                          kuligs2

                                                          Long ago I started off with non-screen drawing pad and that was a failure. I lost interest a few tries after I bought it. I got S Tab light 10inch screen so I download the drawing app. It's quite small, difficult, and frustrated to work with. Any creations I made there are not worth showing lol. The one I tried at the shop was 27inch I think. It was so much better and I enjoy more working on it. If I were really getting back into 2D drawing I would save up and buy large screen for sure.

                                                          However, I have now a 32inch monitor and Blender has that 2D style rendering from 3D objects. So I will lean that way since it combines both my 3D and 2D interests.

                                                            for drawing i wish i had a much larger surface... which makes sense due to my skill level.

                                                            when kids start doing art you give them the biggest medium you can... the ability to draw scaled down is perfecting the craft IMO

                                                            i find the tablet i have to be a good size for doing notes and touch up but i do think i would create much better art IF i had a larger screen.

                                                            again that is probably a skill issue vs a preference but i am just guessing there.

                                                            I do also really wish i had the pen tilting ability with my tablet... i don't know how much it would improve what i am doing but that IS a very important aspect of creating pen and paper artwork.... it would make sense that it would be the same to me.

                                                              REVBENT when kids start doing art you give them the biggest medium you can...

                                                              It is possible to learn on small tablets. Simple sketches, drafts. Something like my e-book I think is ideal.

                                                              To buy a 32” Wacom for learning… well, such a thing seems too radical to me.

                                                                  Tomcat
                                                                  i agree... that IS the direction i decided to go as well... my screen is just smaller than a piece of paper.

                                                                  if i end up "needing" more i will be going the route of a bigger tablet 🙂

                                                                  i see they have stands for them to sit up like an easel ... I'm not really sure how i feel about that.

                                                                      REVBENT i see they have stands for them to sit up like an easel ... I'm not really sure how i feel about that.

                                                                      ”Stand“ — do you mean the cover? It's for reading only — you can't draw using it. I bought another stand

                                                                      But I have an older model, not the one I linked to. My model is out of production, it's a little smaller — 7.8”.

                                                                      These books have limitations:

                                                                      • You can't connect them as a monitor
                                                                      • Their native format is .pdf (can be vector or bitmap).
                                                                      • They have a very long response time - specific to e-paper. It is not convenient to do quick shading.
                                                                      • Color screens cost a noticeable amount of money.

                                                                        oh yes... something like that.... thanks for clearing that up for me!!!

                                                                        i was under the impression that it was meant to make the canvas like you were painting/drawing on a easel.

                                                                        i suppose i just have a "skill issue" and i guess i need to "hunker down" and get better. Along with EVERYTHING else i am trying to learn 🙂