GLTF : "can't operate on node the current scene inherit from".

delphin2424

"can't operate on node the current scene inherit from".
I've imported the glb as inherit (right click - new inherit scene), but I can't move anything...
even if click on the "chack/movie" icon, it still tell me open in new inherit and if open it anyway i can't save it 'cause of the embedded binary data size is larger than etc.
I'm stucked...

The object is made by multiple mesh. I have to manage them independently, adding scripts, animations.
Any suggestion? Maybe a step by step?

Tomcat

So, if you “open anyway” an instantiated scene, it opens but isn't saved?

What's the file size? How much RAM do you have? I've never encountered this problem before.

Can you show a screenshot of the error?

You could try splitting the file (for example, in Blender), but the problem seems very strange.

You could try adding everything in Blender, but I haven’t tested how that works in practice.

delphin2424

Tomcat hi, tnx for the answer. please check the attachment. the aim is to group cannons and scanner under the same node in order to control them via script. 64Gb Ram running on i9. file size 4.5 mega

kuligs2

delphin2424 you need more ram for this operation tho

Tomcat

delphin2424 please check the attachment.

The image is very small, and I can’t see exactly what the warning says. But I see that you’re opening “New Inherited” instead of “Open Anyway.”

64Gb Ram running on i9. file size 4.5 mega

If you want, I can try opening your file on my workstation. I have a bit more memory. But the file doesn’t look excessively large.

delphin2424

kuligs2 more then 64Gb of ram to import a glb? with obj works wow... but it's tedious...

delphin2424

Tomcat as the topic says : can't operate on node the current scene inherit from

if I hit "open anyway" and try to save it carries on all the binary data...no way
I saw many people running into this problem, but no solution atm

The text-based scene at path "Turret/enemy_turretok.tscn" is large on disk (4.24 MiB), likely because it has embedded binary data.
This slows down scene saving and loading.
Consider saving its binary subresource(s) to a binary .res file or saving the scene as a binary .scn file.
This warning can be disabled in the Editor Settings (FileSystem > On Save > Warn on Saving Large Text Resources).

Tomcat

delphin2424 The text-based scene at path "Turret/enemy_turretok.tscn" is large on disk (4.24 MiB), likely because it has embedded binary data.

It’s just a warning about the file’s large size. It doesn’t affect your ability to save it in any way.

if I hit "open anyway" and try to save it carries on all the binary data...no way

This part is unclear. So, it looks like the file is saving, but no changes are actually being made to the file? If that’s the case, I can’t say anything without seeing the file itself, but it sounds like a bug. Well, Godot does have issues with large files. But specifically for this case, I can’t say anything for sure without the problematic file.

You should “save as...” the scene (.tscn or .scn), not save the .glb file.

delphin2424

Tomcat tnx Tomcat. Are you building any game atm? You sounds expert 🙂 A lot to learn from you!

Tomcat

delphin2424 Are you building any game atm? You sounds expert 🙂 A lot to learn from you!

I was just looking into this issue. It’s part of my project.

https://static.makehumancommunity.org/relatedsystems/godot/tomcat.html

delphin2424

Tomcat

this is the gltf I'm trying to import. Feel free to test it and give me your feedback, please
many tnx
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delphin2424

Tomcat interesting your website, but not exactly what I ran into.
I can import the gls or gltf but :
if I hit new inherit I can't modify the nodes,
if I hit open anyway and I save the scene I get the warning.

This not occurs with obj.

Tomcat

delphin2424 Well, @Dad3353 gave a really good answer. I can only confirm everything he said. You don't need to pay too much attention to the warning — just keep it in mind.

Dad3353

I had no trouble importing this Gltf into Godot. I also imported it into Blender, to add colours; here it is imported back into Godot, with no issues...

I don't know what procedure you're using; I drag the Gltf and its 'bin' file into Godot, then create a new Node 3D. I drag the Gltf into this new node, and edit it, choosing 'Open Anyway'. I save this as a Scene, and close the first node without saving. It works for me, and I can edit its components with no issues.

delphin2424

Dad3353 which format you saved the scene?
no warning about the scene is bigger than N Mbytes? no warning of any type?

Hey man, tnx for your time, you have been very kind spending some time into this

anyway I figured out that if I save the scene as .SCN and not TSCN no worning appears. I assume that this removes the binary data storage.
Hope this can helps somebody as well.
By the wave I don't know the difference bwn scn and tscn and if this can affect negatively the game building process.
At least it works 🙂

Dad3353

delphin2424
Yes, there was a warning when saving as 'tscn' file...

The text-based scene at path "res://enem_turr.tscn" is large on disk (4.24 MiB), likely because it has embedded binary data.
This slows down scene saving and loading.
Consider saving its binary subresource(s) to a binary .res file or saving the scene as a binary .scn file.
This warning can be disabled in the Editor Settings (FileSystem > On Save > Warn on Saving Large Text Resources).

No such warning when saving as a 'Scn' file (size on disk : 2602 kb...). It doesn't worry me to see such warnings; in my Projects I have animated creatures that are over 4000 kb, some four times that, and they work perfectly. Some stuff is big, s'all. If I can reduce the poly count (in Blender...), or use smaller 'Png' files for Textures, I do so, but if it's big, it's big. My target for my Projects are only my own PC, so I'm not trying to optimise for 'smartphones' or the like.

The essential difference between 'Tscn' and 'Scn' is that 'Tscn' is a Text file, and can be easily read (or even edited...) with a text editor such as Notepad++ or similar. A 'Scn' file has been reduced into a Binary file, and cannot be read, except by Godot itself. It's a smaller file, but it is often very useful to be able to open files as text, so I always use 'Tscn', personally. I'm able to copy/paste code or Material information between objects using this.
Hope this helps; have a great day.

delphin2424

Tomcat @Dad3353
thank you guys, I really appreciate your help.
Hope to share more progress soon, and glad to see what are you both working on.

Have a nice sunday.
All the best