I hate JavaScript...

ArDanZ11

I think you can tell by the title, I HATE JAVASCRIPT. It is annoying, since the syntax is weird, and I can't seem to learn it. I have been trying to use AI to make a plugin that - well, it's been so long now that I can't seem to remember. Oh no, yeah, I was trying to add JSON compatibility to Blockbench. AI just didn't work. Except for ONE that I have tested (I have tested a lot of the free ones).

The one things I think is surprising, is that Google Gemini AI actually works. I tried it and it turned out surprisingly good.

I wonder what kinds of apps I could create using Gemini and my imagination. And maybe some silly icons that I would make.

I will post what happens! Also tell me what you think about Gemini.

DaveTheCoder

ArDanZ11 Google Gemini AI actually works

I use it often, and it does work well. But occasionally it becomes insane and tells me that I'm using outdated API code, when it's the one using the outdated code. So I can't trust it completely.

xyz

JavaScript is the language of chaos, and chaos is an essential part of prototyping.

ArDanZ11 I wonder what kinds of apps I could create using Gemini and my imagination

Why don't you ask Gemini what kind of apps you could create using it... and your imagination?

ArDanZ11

Just FYI, I used the app button in the New Chat.

housatic

I mostly like javascript, but I come from web dev so I kinda have to 😃 What do you dislike about the syntax if you don't mind me asking? I feel like it's pretty standard, or at least pretty similar to C, C#, Java, etc. But if you're used to syntax like Python or GDScript then I understand.

ArDanZ11

housatic Yeah, I am used to Python and stuff like that.

kuligs2

ecmascript imo is one of the best syntaxes, the language dont care if you write it out in single line or how many indents you have. It compiles super fast, its runs very fast unlike other languages that use HEADER FILES..

I have made many js web apps in my time... the webdev landscape keeps changing all the time... back in the day jquery was the shit but now we have many many other options to use..

If you dont know what youre doing and you want to vibe code - that is a disaster.

I suggest you build an app on your own, and maybe use AI to ask specific question you struggle with, like how to replace an element in the array at n-th position, or how to use them async methods and await for stuff.. once you wrap your mind around that, everything is just - read the docs, apply to your usecase.. its not that hard.

Toxe

kuligs2 its runs very fast unlike other languages that use HEADER FILES

Which ones? There aren't that many popular languages around that differentiate between declaration and implementation files.

ArDanZ11

kuligs2 I like the idea, but please watch your language.

Toxe

JavaScript is a cobbled-together mess of a language, but if you ignore a lot of the cruft it has its moments and you can write some elegant code in it. But the fact that after all these years it is still a dynamically typed language is a big, BIG red flag. shudder

kuligs2

Toxe Im no lang-xpert i just feel that ecma is noob friendly and easy to use and make things real fast unlike C types or even python with its indentation garbage and python is real slow maybe not in computing metric but in iterative workflows where you change code and need to test it right away..

Toxe cpp for me and rust, go was a bit different but still not so noob friendly as ecma

Toxe

kuligs2 cpp for me

But... but... C++ in comparison is not a slower language than JavaScript.

kuligs2 i just feel that ecma is noob friendly and easy to use [...] unlike [...] python with its indentation garbage

What? There aren't many languages around that are easier to use and learn than Python. Also, the "indentation garbage" is really such a non-issue. That's what most code would look like anyways without the braces.

ArDanZ11

kuligs2 I agree Python is slow.

kuligs2

Toxe Python. Also, the "indentation garbage" is really such a non-issue

No, comming from ecma, its a large issue.. ecma dont care how thou format the code, but py is a indentation nazi..

Godot is too with gdscript, but i got used to it..

But python and its package managing issues, is what made it dead to me.. I havent had problems with npm where with python seems like every other package will break your script or you will corner yourself into where you mess up your py installation and then spend precious time removing garbage packages that you didnt know you didnt need .. this is offtopic alltogether.. i just say this.. im not a fan of py.

As for slowness - iteration - > i write out a line, prec a button and it runs, with py it was too slow, with cpp idk, i just dont like syntax, with .NET its slow too.

Ecma and gdscript are ones that does it for me when i want to test the thing real fast.. and not wait for it to compile... i know some graybeard beer belly legends along the lines of john blow will say that the long compilations is teaching you to not suck at writing good code... sure i agree, but gone are those days where you could not find an oracle that would tell you what you want to know, you just have to structure your question to get the desired answer. I want to go fast, i want to go now

ArDanZ11

xyz I don't need Gemini for that. That is the things I MOST don't wan AI doing for me - giving me ideas. That is for MY mind, not a computer. If i needed AI to think of ideas for me, THAT would also be a huge red flag.

Gemini could give me suggestions based on what is most popular, or what is not already very common, since it can browse the web WAY faster than I can, but from there, It is up to me.

xyz

What's this discussion about again?

ArDanZ11

xyz This is getting weirder and weirder...