Is there a free version of GitHub?

Megalomaniak

Tomcat It's not an area where it's desirable to use a not very stable version.

It's in beta, but that doesn't mean the software is necessarily unstable. It'll probably be in 'beta' for another 5 to 10 years while they still add new APIs to the standard and such, maybe change a few of them. So the API isn't stable yet, sure. But it is usable.

Tomcat Paid. Hard to call cheap.

It was just an example of what a DAM is. Not a recommendation for one.

Tomcat They use GitHub themselves.

For code hosting, sure. That was never under debate.

Tomcat Well I assumed we were discussing the question from the thread title in a practical area.

Pretty sure that discussion ended in 2023.11.21.

kuligs2 I suggest OP to get yourself a minipc, and start hosting gitea.

Tomcat Probably the most interesting option.

I definitely can agree that it's a good idea to set up a home server running linux with a journaling file system. Then install gitaea or gitlab on it for code hosting too. But unlike a DAM git won't manage file metadata such as tags or copyright info per file. Also for backups you can use timeshift or the like along with all the caching the file systems journaling brings you. Don't forget to have pairs of identical drives and use software RAID 1 for data mirroring.

Tomcat

Megalomaniak I definitely can agree that it's a good idea to set up a home server running linux with a journaling file system.

Linux, exactly? 🙁

Pretty sure that discussion ended in 2023.11.21.

I was sure the discussion was ongoing. For another question — should have opened another thread.

The reply from Wednesday, April 17, 2024 was exactly to the previous post.

Misunderstandings are commonplace. ©️

But unlike a DAM git won't manage file metadata such as tags or copyright info per file.

It would be useful, but for now the absence is not critical.

Don't forget to have pairs of identical drives and use software RAID 1 for data mirroring.

Right now I have the disks in RAID 0. 🚀 But will put it in the plans.

Megalomaniak

Tomcat Linux, exactly? 🙁

You could use BSD, but I'd rather have an easier time with a GUI environment, at which point if you aren't going with a highly specialized headless setup you might as well go linux over BSD.

Tomcat

Megalomaniak you might as well go linux over BSD.

Gitea has a version for Win. I have a complicated relationship with Linux. It is in my plans to try it out… once again… but that's a long shot.

Don't forget to have pairs of identical drives and use software RAID 1 for data mirroring.

If one slides into heavy offtopic, it's a controversial proposition.

«Identical drives» — they may sprinkle the same way (at the same time). Remember the DTLA story? There is a confession recommending to use not only different models, but even from different companies.

«RAID 1» — after replacing a failed drives, RAID copying starts, which increases the load on the working drives. And if it fails… RAID 10 looks preferable, but expensive. RAID 5 is a bit cheaper in terms of drives and more interesting, but the key for it is expensive. I don't know if it is possible to implement it on Linux.

However, RAID 0 requires exactly the identical drives.

Megalomaniak

I'd just recommend identical drives because they will perform about the same. So one won't hold the other back. But realistically same capacity should suffice. Yes there's more complex RAID schemes. But if you are using something like rsync and backing up the image on another device, preferably offsite even perhaps... then RAID 1 should suffice.

kuligs2

As for homeservers, i have a dedicated minipc that is sub 35W on load, mostly idle and i use proxmox on it for host OS and for any other service that i need i just use debian image and create container (not a vm). And there i just host docker and just use it as normal.. Can install gitea that way and use it. It took me little over a year to master using proxmox. IMO its the best. Because you can back up your containers/VM's as is and even if your host gets nuked (happened to me once) you can restore it with few clicks in web GUI.

Tomcat

Tomcat Cloning and pushing via ssh instead of https.

How important is that?

Well its more secure if you do it from outside your LAN, ssh, maybe faster in some cases . I work from multiple locations, so its better to be safe, someone is definitely sniffing network packets these days.

But if you also run VPN on your homeserver then it dont matter, you can just connect to VPN and connection is already encrypted so no worries there.
Im no genius, just a surface level user.

Tomcat while gitea is under the umbrella corps.

What are the problems that follow from that? I work on Win 11, and they don't provide this version of Forgejo, apparently as a matter of principle.

Like with everything, privacy is holy. Corporations will server you ads, will selll your data, will force you to update etc.etc.

Free software is free. You can do what you want. If it works then its great, if it dont work you can fix it yourself.

Yesterday i moved my gitea data to that forgejo thing, was 2 min job. They even have documentation how to migrate. Everything works as it did before, no problem.

Tomcat

kuligs2 Thank you for the detailed response! 👍️

kuligs2 Im no genius, just a surface level user.

I don't want to dive very deep into the topic either. At least not at first.

and i use proxmox on it for host OS and for any other service that i need i just use debian image and create container (not a vm). And there i just host docker and just use it as normal..

Sounds like an arcane incantation, but it's interesting. 🪄

I have a difficult relationship with Linux. 14 years ago I built a state-of-the-art computer (LGA1366) and wanted to try Linux. I was very surprised to find out that it was impossible. It just didn't support the hardware. It was a long time ago, but it seems that at that time there was no possibility to boot from SATA, and I didn't want to buy an outdated disk that would slow down the whole aggregate. Linux and I have an existential contradiction — I don't always buy the most powerful, but I try to get the latest, and Linux has an unhealthy conservatism in supporting new initiatives.

I may eventually try to build a server on Linux, but that would obviously be a hard step. Things that Win users are used to and take for granted are painful on Linux. For the sake of interest, I inquired how to install a video on the desktop (live wallpaper). The procedure turned out to be non-trivial¹ and with pitfalls². It is useful for preventing OLED-display burnout. However, I have a CRT-monitor and other Paleolithic artifacts somewhere, probably already suitable for working with Linux.

As for homeserver

With the home server problems of access to it from the outside. The weak link is the channel from the provider to the house. Even I with fiber optic cable to my apartment may have bandwidth limitations. However, I have time to think about the situation.

But if you also run VPN on your homeserver

VPNs are blocked in our country and quite successfully.

someone is definitely sniffing network packets these days.

Like with everything, privacy is holy.

Don't you find a bit of a contradiction here? 😎

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