Pixophir

I'm not sure I follow this. The only thing I can think of in gentoo would be the emerge log. Can you give an example?

      duane Yeah that was confused/confusing from my side.

      For instance output or relevant parts, those with ERROR of

      ./godot -e --path ~/path/to/project --verbose > godot_log.txt

      Maybe not necessarily --verbose.

      There may be others I don't know of.

        cybereality We would also need a "How to read the "How to ask sticky" sticky"...

        You might be joking but it's not too far from the truth. We should probably go through all our stickies/announcements(many of them very old now) and try and coalesce as much as possible into a well organized master sticky linking to the others in an organized way.

          I'm always joking, yet I'm always serious at the same time. That's my secret.

          🙄 Ok, I understand that this is not seen as a generally pressing thing here. Nevermind 😎

          It is important. We just need to find a way that it is easy to read and easy to find.

          A problem with posting guidelines is that the people who most need to read them will ignore them.

            DaveTheCoder

            On the other hand, it gives us a single link to refer to and quote from, and occasionally people will read it, especially if people put it in their .signature.

            Edit: We might also mention pastebin and/or sites to post large projects on, possibly.

              Right. It's like a bot saying "Read the manual" :-)

              Seriously, people may not read, just like they don't actually read error messages (there was a case that someone posted a clear and concise error message and said "help please"). One could use in order not to have to write the same stuff again and again. It may also contain hints as to what to do, and enable a few willing and able to read before posting, to find an error for themselves.

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              I hate to see this idea die out, since almost no one posts enough information to get the help they're asking for. Has anyone had any brainstorms?

                duane Well, you are welcome to put your money(time) where your mouth(keyboard?) is, welcome to the moderation team. Remember that the topic should be formatted as a suggestion and not a demand or rule.

                You should now have access to the moderation tag/category so you can create the working topic for it there and get also feedback from the rest of us(mods & admins), I'll split the other comments from it and move it to a more appropriate category later when we are all in agreement that it's in a good state for that. A copy of the WIP post can also occasionally be posted here to gather some feedback more openly.

                For reference here is the current/old pinned topic I see this replacing:
                https://godotforums.org/d/27022-getting-started-on-the-forums

                Which is to say that, something already exists for this(sort of) actually but the way stickies(pins) and categories(primary tags) work, the stickies are only visible in the landing/latest posts page if you haven't yet read them.

                The 'how to ask better questions' or such post could be added to it or you could add other posts to your topic covering the same info from there and your topic could become it's replacement then, because the other topic is from the old forums software days and frankly a bit outdated now. So I'm inclined to favor the latter.

                I'll still need to create a top/header link to some central topic/page that would link to all the other important topics/stickies we have later. Cause frankly IMO the sticky/pin system in this forum software doesn't work all that well for the classic purpose. I also still have to get around to re-juggling/reformatting or merging the different primary tags/'categories'...

                edit: @duane I should probably clear it up, I'm not trying to force you to actually take this on, but you seem to have put more thought to this recently than I have managed to and probably deem it more important right now than I do, so it's meant to be a formal approval on my part for you to tackle this if you are willing to. But feel free to let me know if you aren't or can't afford the time.

                  The documentation page does a really good job of covering everything that I thought of. However, the fact that I didn't know about it suggests it could be advertised better. The best solution would be a link in the "start a discussion" page, but the way it's set up makes me wonder if that's even possible. There is something to be said for having actual pages, rather than simulated windows.

                    duane The best solution would be a link in the "start a discussion" page, but the way it's set up makes me wonder if that's even possible. There is something to be said for having actual pages, rather than simulated windows.

                    Yeah, I'm not sure we can do it with Flarum. There is a lot of things I like about Flarum, but I have to admit, the customization (layout, theme styling, etc) is not nearly as nice as I'd like. I mean, it was better than having a non-working Vanilla install, but... yeah.

                    I'll add a link to the documentation page to the "help/contact" page 👍️
                    Edit: Added!

                      duane The best solution would be a link in the "start a discussion" page, but the way it's set up makes me wonder if that's even possible.

                      That was possible in vanilla but not in flarum. Unless there's a plugin that somehow implements it.

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