Help test the new forum theme while it's developed.

Megalomaniak

@fooon said: New theme is looking pretty good, I have a few suggestions though. Cannot see where the input boxes are in the login model box.

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll take a look at that. <edit> PR created </edit>

@fooon said: The width of the main forum is pretty small, I would float the nav to the very left side.

I suppose we could look into that, but perhaps that isn't the most pressing matter. We can always tweak things after we have migrated the live forum and tweak things further.

@fooon said: Search bar is gigantic, I would move it to the right side of the breadcrumb.

Right, so the search bar is on it's own line since the theme is responsive in design, we don't use a separate specialized theme for mobile. This too can be looked at later perhaps but for now I think it works fine, so no point fixing what isn't really broken.

I'm guessing the homepage title and description are temporary, so removing those when the test forums is done will save a bunch of space.

Yes, that can be considered, on a previous prototype theme of mine I had removed the title from the categories page. There is one caveat though: On the discussion topic page that title element is what/where the topic name gets rendered.

Certainly achievable though.

@fooon said: This one is a personal thing I do in all the forums I run. Having the total post count and number of discussions isn't really needed and would save a bunch of space and make it so everything isn't smooshed together, would also save height.

Yes, this is something I've been thinking too, however I was thinking of incorporating the topic and post-count as smaller elements under another section there, with the 'discussions' & 'comments' removed from the top row and icons appended to the ends of actual numbers perhaps. Would have to experiment with that first. I can still see how some users might find that info somewhat useful.

Add some color to the header of each section.

You mean the headings(Godot Community, Godot Help etc.)? Could certainly experiment with that.

Thanks for the feedback.

TwistedTwigleg

@fooon said: New theme is looking pretty good, I have a few suggestions though. Cannot see where the input boxes are in the login model box.

@Megalomaniak made a PR and I updated the theme. Now it should be fixed :smile:

Thanks for letting us know @fooon! (And thanks @Megalomaniak for the PR!)

The width of the main forum is pretty small, I would float the nav to the very left side.

I think we might be able to do something like this using a CSS media query. That way the site can take up more room on bigger screens, while still maintaining compatibility with smaller screens like mobile devices. Defiantly something to look into!

Though as @Megalomaniak said, this isn't very pressing so we might have to leave looking into it until after the forums are migrated.

Search bar is gigantic, I would move it to the right side of the breadcrumb.

I agree with Megalomaniak that we should probably tackle this later. That said, I think we can make the search bar a little less obtrusive by reducing the padding from it and the breadcrumb, and then we can look into it later.

I'm guessing the homepage title and description are temporary, so removing those when the test forums is done will save a bunch of space.

I dunno. Personally I think keeping the title is a good idea since it shows which category you are on.

As for the description, I think removing it is a good idea. The category description is already listed when viewing categories anyway, so we're not really losing much, if anything, by removing the description.

This one is a personal thing I do in all the forums I run. Having the total post count and number of discussions isn't really needed and would save a bunch of space and make it so everything isn't smooshed together, would also save height.

So long as nobody has a problem with it, it sounds like a good idea to me! I think @Megalomaniak's idea sounds interesting.

We might want to look into this after the forums are migrated though. Defiantly something to consider.

Add some color to the header of each section.

This is probably doable. At any rate, we can certainly give it a try.

Many thanks for the feedback @fooon!

I do not know how many ideas we'll be able to test and implement since we're wanting to migrate sooner rather than later, but these are goods ideas and I appreciate the feedback!

fooon

Is the theme something I can contribute to? Is there a github page?

Megalomaniak

Yes, we have linked it a couple of times in here: https://github.com/TwistedTwigleg/vanilla-bootstrap

Ace_Dragon

Regarding the width of the threads themselves, I have grown to appreciate a somewhat narrower format as my eyes do not have to constantly scroll from left to right on my 27 inch HD monitor (which makes threads harder to read).

For those with small monitors though, I completely get the desire to have the site take up more space. Could an option for width be done?

TwistedTwigleg

@Ace Dragon said: Regarding the width of the threads themselves, I have grown to appreciate a somewhat narrower format as my eyes do not have to constantly scroll from left to right on my 27 inch HD monitor (which makes threads harder to read).

For those with small monitors though, I completely get the desire to have the site take up more space. Could an option for width be done?

I might be able to make a plugin or something that makes it customizable or something. I'll look into it and see what I can do.

Megalomaniak

It is worth remembering that users can use the browser page zooming capability, but we might be able to experiment a little to try and find perhaps a better middle-ground where users should be more easily able to zoom in or out from according to their needs.

Calinou

Just make the website container take a maximum fixed width, and use the remaining space to center the container. Most CSS frameworks should handle this for you if you use their container class, including Bootstrap.

I have a 32" 1440p monitor and it looks fine to me here, but it becomes painful on websites that don't use such a container, making lines very long and difficult to read.

NeoD

@Calinou said: Just make the website container take a maximum fixed width, and use the remaining space to center the container. Most CSS frameworks should handle this for you if you use their container class, including Bootstrap.

I have a 32" 1440p monitor and it looks fine to me here, but it becomes painful on websites that don't use such a container, making lines very long and difficult to read.

Like said in the humoristic bettermotherfuckingwebsite

Megalomaniak

@Calinou said: Just make the website container take a maximum fixed width, and use the remaining space to center the container. Most CSS frameworks should handle this for you if you use their container class, including Bootstrap.

it does, and we are already using a theme based on bootstrap, yes.

TwistedTwigleg

I changed a few relatively minor things recently:

-| I changed the URL from testforum.RandomMomentania to godotforums.org. Don't worry about adjusting links, it should auto reroute to godotforums.org automatically :smile: This should make it easier for transitioning hosts later down the line. Everything should be exactly the same as it is on the test forums with the old URL.

-| I changed the post editor back to the Advance editor with Markdown, like what we have here on these forums, so the Imgur plugin would work again. If we can get the Imgur plugin working with the new Rich editor, then we might enable it again in the future. Also, the Imgur plugin has been re-enabled (and has a few minor issues I plan to try and fix soon)

-| I rewrote the announcement post in Markdown and changed a few things. Changes include new pictures of the theme, fixing some spelling issues, and rewriting a couple sections for better clarity.

I also updated the theme and plugins to the latest versions that me and Megalomaniak have been working on. Changes are as follows:

-| (Godot Lightly and Godot Darkly) The side panel should be visible on almost all pages. Previously you could not change your profile picture, view your friendships, or view your Yaga badges. This should all be fixed now!

-| (Godot Lightly) Several more panel elements have been given the cardification process and have been stylized

-| (Godot Darkly) Many changes from Godot Lightly have been ported to Godot Darkly. This includes button styling, cardification on many elements, and other changes present in GodotLightly. It still needs work, but Godot Darkly should be much more usable now.

-| (Godot Lightly) Answered topics now have different styling and coloring. Now instead of being a solid color, it is a nice yellow gradient on the post that has been marked an answer. Tag colors have been changed accordingly.

-| (Godot Lightly and Godot Darkly) The Discord widget embed has been changed into a plugin that can be enabled and disabled on a per user basis. This is so users who do not want to see the widget do not have to wait the extra 1-3 seconds it takes to load the widget.

-| (*Godot Lightly and Godot Darkly**) Other small changes here and there.

Please let us know what you think! :smile:

As far as the page width stuff goes, I think it is best to leave it as it is for right now, and maybe once the migration process is over see about finding a solution that works for everyone.

Edit: Realized how I wrote the beginning of this post could be misinterpreted as being perhaps a tad rude, which was not my intention... Fixed it.

wombatstampede

Just had a bit of fuzzy result on the forum.

I visited the page, then pressed on sign on. The login dialogue took ages (maybe 15-30 seconds?) to appear and the login also took long. After that no links work.

But... I use "No Script". Although noscript claimed to not block any of the scripts/sites used, I disabled it. Reload, and everything worked fine.

Enabled "No Script" again and still everything worked fine (even after Strg+F5 and signout + sign in.)

Just wanted to tell you about it. Perhaps it was just a temporary thing... ;-)

wombatstampede

Uh, and the forum theme was "light". Then I visited my profile and found "Godot Darkly" selected. I switched to Godot Lightly saved. Then back again to Godot Darkly and the Dark theme actually displayed.

TwistedTwigleg

@wombatstampede said: Just had a bit of fuzzy result on the forum.

I visited the page, then pressed on sign on. The login dialogue took ages (maybe 15-30 seconds?) to appear and the login also took long. After that no links work.

But... I use "No Script". Although noscript claimed to not block any of the scripts/sites used, I disabled it. Reload, and everything worked fine.

Enabled "No Script" again and still everything worked fine (even after Strg+F5 and signout + sign in.)

Just wanted to tell you about it. Perhaps it was just a temporary thing... ;-)

Strange.

The long wait times could be server related. I know RandomMomentania sometimes loads really slow. I think it is because I’m using a shared hosting plan, so when a different site on the same server gets a lot of traffic, it can slow down all the other sites on the same server.

Not sure why the links wouldn’t work though. Maybe because I moved it to the new domain?

Thanks for letting us know. If it happens again, let me know and I’ll see what I can do. Worse case, I can re-enable the testforum.randommomentania.com forum again and figure out why godotforums.org is acting differently.

@wombatstampede said: Uh, and the forum theme was "light". Then I visited my profile and found "Godot Darkly" selected. I switched to Godot Lightly saved. Then back again to Godot Darkly and the Dark theme actually displayed.

Huh, that is strange. My guess is that it didn’t read the meta data successfully, though when you visited your profile it should have read “Godot Lightly” if it had troubles. I dunno, maybe the plugin needs adjusting.

Thanks for letting us know about all this @wombatstampede! I don’t know what was causing the strange behavior, but if I can I will try to see if I can find the cause and if possible fix it.

Megalomaniak

@wombatstampede said: Just had a bit of fuzzy result on the forum.

I visited the page, then pressed on sign on. The login dialogue took ages (maybe 15-30 seconds?) to appear and the login also took long. After that no links work.

But... I use "No Script". Although noscript claimed to not block any of the scripts/sites used, I disabled it. Reload, and everything worked fine.

Enabled "No Script" again and still everything worked fine (even after Strg+F5 and signout + sign in.)

Just wanted to tell you about it. Perhaps it was just a temporary thing... ;-)

Considering that I use (older) noscript myself with waterfox, I'm going to have to assume it was a fluke. I certainly haven't experienced it myself. Thanks for the feedback non-the-less.

NeoD

I made a new tour in the new forums and IMO the topics list can be displayed more efficiently.

The big line at the top of the list may be removed to save space.

In this example the info "Recent Discussions" is avalaible three times in the page so the topic list can be displayed higher up if you remove the big one. The line with the path "Home / Recent Discussions" should be displayed bigger instead.

Thank you anyway for your work, that's a nice forum.

Megalomaniak

The dark theme has not really gotten substantial work yet. Both themes are essentially work in progress with the light theme the current/primary focus.

I can somewhat agree that theres a bit too much redundancy in some respects. I'm considering cutting the side panel out completely in the future, but I'd have to try it out on localhost before I'd be willing to commit to that idea.

TwistedTwigleg

@NeoD said: I made a new tour in the new forums and IMO the topics list can be displayed more efficiently. ...

As @Megalomaniak mentioned, right now the light theme is the current focus because it is the new default theme, so we haven't really worked on the dark theme yet. Right now the dark theme is mostly just a color shift of the light theme, but it is a tad behind in some of the changes we've made that we haven't had time to port over to the dark theme just yet.

I'll try to work more on the dark theme before the final transition so it is at least has as many of the changes in the light theme as possible.

As for the layout and the duplication of various elements, I don't know. I agree that it is kinda redundant that "recent discussions" appears three times while in the recent discussions page.

There are only three duplicates when looking at the recent discussions, looking at other categories only has two (the title and the breadcrumbs). Maybe we could remove the title text and just use breadcrumbs?

Maybe something like this:

(This is just a prototype CSS edit I made in the browser)

Though with any change, especially big changes, we still need to test and make sure it works and doesn't break anything.

Thank you anyway for your work, that's a nice forum.

Thanks! Me and Megalomaniak have been working to make it as nice as we can. Thank you for the feedback! :smile:

TwistedTwigleg

We've officially moved! What was the test forums are now the official forums.

Many thanks to everyone who has helped with the new themes!

That said, we are still actively working on the forum themes and would love to hear any/all feedback you might have.

flurick

Bullet lists for change logs etc. could be nice, seems to be hidden at the moment.

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