Godot graphic demo showcase

MagicLord

Hi there,

Showcase demos is what was used long time ago by Unreal engine to promote it, and most 3D engines are doing the same putting lot of money to get impressive graphics demos.

Should Godot pay some artists to create a stunning Godot showcase demo ?

emo10001

Might be a good idea. I wish I could say I was doing that...but...I'm not LOL :smile:

-emo

MagicLord

@emo10001 said: Might be a good idea. I wish I could say I was doing that...but...I'm not LOL :smile:

-emo

Your project was about terrain and Godot is not about terrain tools yet. But it's fully capable for city like environments, why not some Cyberpunk 2077 demo ?

aztecsensei

they should but i think is not possible yet, maybe in the future. i wonder how much would cost a AAA demo ? i read somewhere that one nextgen character can cost up to 10 000 bucks or problably more. i wish i can help but my level is still low. all that eye candy stuff is pretty advance stuff.

MagicLord

@aztecsensei said: they should but i think is not possible yet, maybe in the future. i wonder how much would cost a AAA demo ? i read somewhere that one nextgen character can cost up to 10 000 bucks or problably more. i wish i can help but my level is still low. all that eye candy stuff is pretty advance stuff.

Making a detailed human like character is the most complex. But there is many ways to make a character, for example using only modeling hard surface with some full armor and some clothes parts, armor parts, or making un usual characters , like animals like characters or cyberpunk.

Unity latest showcase have only one character and it's not really a character, it's all about duplicate models and textures, the 3D engine lighting and shaders make it work.

aztecsensei

yeah,Making a detailed human like character is the most complex!!so true, thats the reason some devs use armors and others stuffs(robots) to save money,just look at dark souls and Bloodborne,they made it that way because its looks cool or because they wanted to save some bucks,problably both! :D Unity latest showcase? adam?

MagicLord

@aztecsensei said: yeah,Making a detailed human like character is the most complex!!so true, thats the reason some devs use armors and others stuffs(robots) to save money,just look at dark souls and Bloodborne,they made it that way because its looks cool or because they wanted to save some bucks,problably both! :D Unity latest showcase? adam?

The last one demo is about about Megascan outdoors, new render pipeline and nature shaders, it's a graphic showcase, lot of people have been impressed.

Ace_Dragon

I would personally prefer for the Godot devs. to ensure that it has functionality that works rather than try to beat Unreal 4 at the moment. That said, pretty pictures tend to be a powerful marketing tool for prospective game developers (but a world with high quality graphics should also have gameplay to match).

Calinou

reduz is currently working with a professional artist to create a new 3D demo:

MagicLord

@Ace Dragon said: I would personally prefer for the Godot devs. to ensure that it has functionality that works rather than try to beat Unreal 4 at the moment. That said, pretty pictures tend to be a powerful marketing tool for prospective game developers (but a world with high quality graphics should also have gameplay to match).

I agree pretty pictures will be the main marketing for a 3D engine.

Unity last nature demo is using very few assets, it's surprising when you look at the demo, but those few assets are mega scan high quality models and textures, and high quality shaders.

This can be done in Godot, get some Mega scanes , start working on nature shaders and i guess Godot would get a similar quality demo very good for marketing :)

@Calinou said: reduz is currently working with a professional artist to create a new 3D demo

It's looking great, but textures are lacking to make it more impressive. A good showcase needs lot of good textures.

Ace_Dragon

That demo is a WIP, they probably have not gotten around to texturing everything yet.

MagicLord

@Ace Dragon said: That demo is a WIP, they probably have not gotten around to texturing everything yet.

No worry, i hope they will get far with the demo, without textures it looks already promising.

For example this other demo does not have gameplay it's just a cinematic camera, but it showcase very well the rendering and ligthing on materials a 3D engine can do. A cinematic on a level zone can be more marketing than a game demo.

Ace_Dragon

@MagicLord said: A cinematic on a level zone can be more marketing than a game demo.

However, Godot needs to be marketed so as to demonstrate high quality gameplay to go along with those graphics (ie. not running into bugs or other issues when working on actual interaction and goals). Because of this, I have to say no to using a cinematic to promote the engine.

MagicLord

@Ace Dragon said:

@MagicLord said: A cinematic on a level zone can be more marketing than a game demo.

However, Godot needs to be marketed so as to demonstrate high quality gameplay to go along with those graphics (ie. not running into bugs or other issues when working on actual interaction and goals). Because of this, I have to say no to using a cinematic to promote the engine.

A cinematic or a fps walking demo, it's what Unity is doing in their last graphic showcase, and most users have been impressed.

Ace_Dragon

@MagicLord said:

A cinematic or a fps walking demo, it's what Unity is doing in their last graphic showcase, and most users have been impressed.

You see a showcase of pretty graphics and a good looking environment on an engine's website and you think right then that it is the engine for your game making dreams.

You download it, do some tests, you're good.

You start making an actual game, you get bludgeoned with bugs and other issues that block your progress. Uh oh, the marketing never gave an indication that such bugs would even exist (in effect, a commercial company who tells prospective users the many bugs, crashes, and other issues they may face has failed at marketing).

Sure, Godot could use better promotional material, but we want to be honest and upfront as to what users will expect when using it for a project.

MagicLord

@Ace Dragon said:

@MagicLord said:

A cinematic or a fps walking demo, it's what Unity is doing in their last graphic showcase, and most users have been impressed.

You see a showcase of pretty graphics and a good looking environment on an engine's website and you think right then that it is the engine for your game making dreams.

You download it, do some tests, you're good.

You start making an actual game, you get bludgeoned with bugs and other issues that block your progress. Uh oh, the marketing never gave an indication that such bugs would even exist (in effect, a commercial company who tells prospective users the many bugs, crashes, and other issues they may face has failed at marketing).

Sure, Godot could use better promotional material, but we want to be honest and upfront as to what users will expect when using it for a project.

A graphic showcase demo purpose is graphics features, not gameplay. While there is also some gameplay showcases like CryEngine with their last multiplayer game.

They are two different showcases, you can have a gameplay showcase in Godot and another showcase that is graphics only with a fps camera ;)

MagicLord

The new demo should do the job ;) I don't like the screen freeze, there should be some loading screen with some image animation loop like consoles do.

I'm not sure Godot has particles collisions, but new small particles on impact would look better.

Schuster

This new demo looks really great.....I started making a shorter cinematic demo last year but i did not make it (really hard job....many sculpting-retopology..etc...and animation is another difficult thing...you need a great mocap)....but maybe I will start again with version 3.1 :) ....but for these things one has to be on the PRO level. http://godotdevelopers.org/forum/discussion/18202/theyre-coming-demo

aztecsensei

interesting talk :p ! that new demo looks like it have one million polygons the level alone. :|

MagicLord

@aztecsensei said: interesting talk :p ! that new demo looks like it have one million polygons the level alone. :|

I agree, most Godot 3D projects are simple games or repetitive models and textures, that's sad but the only ground breaking game is the third person demo showcase.

This shows how much 3D art is lot more important than coding to stand out and make a great impression on a 3D Engine capabilities. Godot must pay or ask free help for such artists able to produce such quality level graphics ;)