My proof of concept begins

emo10001

Been trying to get some terrain going for a POC for a fantasy like rpg. Thanks to @Megalomaniak today I'm getting there!

Made the terrain and texture splat in Blender. Used the simple water shader from @MagicLord

https://godotdevelopers.org/forum/discussion/19412/simple-water-shader/p1

Next...trees, bushes, rocks, grass...maybe a cave!

-emo

Megalomaniak

@emo10001 said: .maybe a cave!

Just a heads up that with the type of terrain you are using caves might be a bit tricky. Not necessarily impossible though.

emo10001

@Megalomaniak said:

@emo10001 said: .maybe a cave!

Just a heads up that with the type of terrain you are using caves might be a bit tricky. Not necessarily impossible though.

Yeah did a little experimenting in Blender with a cave last night. It should be fun to try :smile:

MagicLord

@emo10001 said: Been trying to get some terrain going for a POC for a fantasy like rpg. Thanks to @Megalomaniak today I'm getting there!

Made the terrain and texture splat in Blender. Used the simple water shader from @MagicLord

It's not my water, but Maujoe made it ;) Sorry about talking Unity again, but you would need this until you are ready to place one by one thousand objects on floor.

Megalomaniak

I think you meant to point to:

@marcosbitetti 's Grass Plugin 4 Godot 3.0. Though he hasn't updated the thread in a very long time now.

heres the github repo: https://github.com/marcosbitetti/grass_plugin_4_godot

Though I haven't tested it myself.

@MagicLord:

! For the future reference I think it's fine to discuss other engines as you are in the other thread, but I don't think that the second half/line of your post is contributing much to this thread. Could even consider it off-topic/spam. On the first lines note though I do commend you for giving credit where it's due, however.

MagicLord

@Megalomaniak said: I think you meant to point to:

@marcosbitetti 's Grass Plugin 4 Godot 3.0. Though he hasn't updated the thread in a very long time now.

heres the github repo: https://github.com/marcosbitetti/grass_plugin_4_godot

Though I haven't tested it myself.

I could not get it to work with Godot 3, it's a heavy plugin with many scripts not easy to understand. I wish Godot 3 will have natively a brush object painter, for 3D this is the same as a tile painter brush for making 2D games.

Megalomaniak

Right, I believe the WIP version for godot 3 is still private on @marcosbitetti 's own computer. From his last posts it does seem he was/is planning on converting it to gdNative for performance reasons though. But enough of that, it's getting a bit off-topic.

emo10001

@Megalomaniak , @MagicLord I was actually considering using Blender to scatter trees/grass/rocks with the hair particle system, and then export the whole thing as a Collada scene. Put the bark, leaves, grass, rock textures on an Atlas texture. See how that works out.

Any thoughts on that?

-emo

Megalomaniak

Ah, but then you might lose the ability to use MultiMesh/instancing. Hopefully obvious that it would offer performance benefits.

emo10001

Ahh yes...the water shader from @Maujoe ! It works well.

@MagicLord ...yeah I couldn't get the grass_plugin_4_godot to work either.

Guess I will patiently wait :smiley:

It's ok, I have other assets I can work on for the time being.

-emo

marcosbitetti

Hi! I waiting for Godot devs to solve Native Client integration. My game is stopped too, because miss grass in Godot 3.... Older plugin for Godot 2 works... but not with the expected quality of Godot 3 :(

MagicLord

@marcosbitetti said: Hi! I waiting for Godot devs to solve Native Client integration. My game is stopped too, because miss grass in Godot 3.... Older plugin for Godot 2 works... but not with the expected quality of Godot 3 :(

And some of us wait for your plugin because this is the only one able to quick place objects in a level.

But i don't like Godot to be too much dependent on external plugins, it's better Godot to have some important features like brush object painting as native.

MagicLord

Bastiaan Olij is working on a terrain tool that looks good, perhaps it will become native in Godot or a plugin.

Megalomaniak

AFAIK it is already a plugin, and I think he already released the WIP on github?

edit: https://github.com/BastiaanOlij/godot-terrain-edit

also Bastiaan has a youtube channel that everyone here should totally subscribe to: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbLJYzJjDf2p-vJC011lYw

Megalomaniak

Hiya, Bastiaan released a new tutorial I figured you might find interesting:

MagicLord

@Megalomaniak said: Hiya, Bastiaan released a new tutorial I figured you might find interesting:

Good trick, but you have absolute no control where you want to paint your grass and where to paint objects.

Tools similar to UE4 to empower people creation will come to Godot, while terrain must not be the priority.

Megalomaniak

An additional paintable map could be added for masking. Or perhaps use vertex colors instead...

emo10001

@Megalomaniak said: Hiya, Bastiaan released a new tutorial I figured you might find interesting:

Thanks @Megalomaniak I'll take a watch here tonight!

@MagicLord ....I've noticed that any time someone brings up something Godot can do, you bring up either Unreal or Unity "can do it better" or find a flaw to point out.....seriously. Let it go :smile:

-emo

MagicLord

@emo10001 said:

@Megalomaniak said: Hiya, Bastiaan released a new tutorial I figured you might find interesting:

Thanks @Megalomaniak I'll take a watch here tonight!

@MagicLord ....I've noticed that any time someone brings up something Godot can do, you bring up either Unreal or Unity "can do it better" or find a flaw to point out.....seriously. Let it go :smile:

-emo

How is going your proof of concept ? This is what it is about. I point out you need tools to paint grass or objects until your proof of concept is about mesh terrain only. You are right, i let you do your proof of concept as you want, but i would feel incredibly limited to make a proof of concept in Godot 3 before it grow lot more about features.

emo10001

@MagicLord said: How is going your proof of concept ? This is what it is about. I point out you need tools to paint grass or objects until your proof of concept is about mesh terrain only. You are right, i let you do your proof of concept as you want, but i would feel incredibly limited to make a proof of concept in Godot 3 before it grow lot more about features.

First I'll say I certainly appreciate feedback and constructive criticism. Tips, tricks...etc. I thank anyone and everyone who does that. Maybe it's a language barrier (is English your first language?), but often, it feels as if your responses have an underlying tone of "other engines are better", and I'm fully aware there are more complete and mature engines out there than Godot. Again, maybe that's a language barrier issue and that's not your desired tone. I'm certainly not trying to stop healthy discussion...etc. So my apologies if I'm misinterpreting your tone. :smile:

Otherwise, my POC is moving along, although maybe not as fast as I'd like. (Summer just began, my kids are out of school...family vacations are taking up too much time LOL). But I'm currently working in Blender on some simple assets (Cabin/house, campfire, trees/bushes/grass, a simple player character and a simple enemy character, both with animations).

While I'm doing that, I'm going through the FPS tutorial from the Godot documentation. Then I'm going to try to start tying all the pieces together in the engine.

My overall goal is a character with a house, a terrain to explore (that is interesting enough to explore) and an enemy to kill. If I can get that done...I'll feel good about my POC :smile:

Hopefully I'll have some screenshots tonight or tomorrow

-emo